tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post8445203605771516211..comments2023-09-22T02:24:42.144-07:00Comments on a light inside: It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World and other storiesJenna St.Hilairehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16528611770211261141noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-70305992579974712272011-07-05T19:52:31.477-07:002011-07-05T19:52:31.477-07:00Well, now this is a sad day! Yes, please, remain a...Well, now this is a sad day! Yes, please, remain at THH, all. I've been a very absentee landlord of since my writing career got "professionally" started, and I'm working hard to fix that and try to bring things back to the kind of calm and civil discussion we used to have.Travis Prinzihttp://thehogshead.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-36258881236507393312011-06-20T21:55:02.788-07:002011-06-20T21:55:02.788-07:00Thanks, all of you, for your support! I just got b...Thanks, all of you, for your support! I just got back from road trip and taking a few days off was quite refreshing. :)<br /><br />I do hope you'll all stick around The Hog's Head. <b>George</b> is right about there being some history with the direction the discussion took and some of the commenters involved. Things don't usually get that nasty! Besides, I thoroughly enjoy each of your thoughts.Jenna St. Hilairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474588706124865006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-2019350336926371902011-06-20T09:30:31.259-07:002011-06-20T09:30:31.259-07:00Well, thanks for the invitation, George & Arab...Well, thanks for the invitation, George & Arabella. I have to agree with everyone else here, George, in that I thought your comments were fantastic, and I was pretty sad to see you retract them, I thought they were very relevent, clear, and to the point. But not being "in" on the personal relationships, I assumed you'd probably fought that battle before, and decided to work for peace overall. :) <br /><br />I think there are issues, and underlying issues that bring up the defensiveness of anyone, and really all we can do is try to recognize our own, and work to avoid allowing that defensiveness to come out in those discussions - try to really see what the other person is saying and allow it to affect us without making assumptions about the other person and rejecting their words out of hand. It doesn't mean we'll agree, it just allows us to have a discussion with a person, instead of an idea.<br /><br />But don't worry, drama never keeps me away - I'll be back, at least as a spectator. Thanks for the welcome!Mashahttp://www.cyganeria-masha.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-23635321296201649932011-06-19T12:37:06.753-07:002011-06-19T12:37:06.753-07:00The YA conversation thread at THH isn't repres...The YA conversation thread at THH isn't representative of most discussions there. Problems usually come up when some want to make the conversation more about themselves than the topic. I didn't read George's comment in a negative way at all and understood the point he was making. I was sorry to see such an important discussion derailed. Occasionally this will happen, alas, but please keep coming.<br /><br />--ArabellaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-25743604557556398552011-06-17T08:33:16.214-07:002011-06-17T08:33:16.214-07:00Thank you, Carrie-Ann. I certainly didn't thin...Thank you, <b>Carrie-Ann</b>. I certainly didn't think my comments were off topic, as was alleged, but I did realize upon reflection that they were poorly phrased & perhaps more pointedly personal than I meant to make them. <br /><br />Anyway, I'm hoping <b>Jenna's</b> having a nice, relaxing getaway. :)Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16501327753737422337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-89856497694118154962011-06-17T08:24:18.859-07:002011-06-17T08:24:18.859-07:00No problem, Masha. I didn't mean to come off a...No problem, <b>Masha</b>. I didn't mean to come off as so defensive, it's just I've been sharing the same frustration with Jenna & in particular over some of the same commentators. ;)<br /><br />Anyway, feel free to jump into the subject even though you know nothing about it. Isn't that the way we do things here in America? :)Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16501327753737422337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-12992313474207304432011-06-17T08:22:33.436-07:002011-06-17T08:22:33.436-07:00I, too, am sorry to hear that you've been pers...I, too, am sorry to hear that you've been personally affected by the brawl at the Hog's Head, <b>Jenna</b>. You are such a gentle and intelligent person and don't deserve any nasty mail or messages.<br /><br />Thanks, <b>revgeorge</b>, for the brief back-story (I've only been a member for a year). I had missed a couple of days over there on account of visiting family, but when I saw the brawl I missed the beginning of and watched the rest unfold, I stayed far away from it. I didn't think you had anything to apologize for, by the way, but I understand why you wanted to bow out.Carrie-Ann Biondihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09769201617294313094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-82615540786617299862011-06-17T08:20:20.018-07:002011-06-17T08:20:20.018-07:00George~
It was fascinating to read, like a story w...George~<br />It was fascinating to read, like a story where you only get half the background, if that isn't too objectifying to the participants. :) I didn't mean for my response to come of as in any way a negative judgment on the commentors, just as an expression of understanding re: Jenna's frustration. I actually had an overwhelming urge to join the site, just to join the argument, but not knowing anything about the entire topic, it would have been completely unhelpful :)<br /><br />Thanks for the clarification :) I hope the scuffle clears quickly and cleanly.<br /><br />BlessingsMashahttp://www.cyganeria-masha.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-63013280152986836792011-06-17T08:09:51.108-07:002011-06-17T08:09:51.108-07:00Masha, unfortunately, there's some history goi...<b>Masha</b>, unfortunately, there's some history going on at the other site between various commentators. And even though I didn't think my comments over there were personal, I saw how they could be taken that way & apologized for them. <br /><br />Anyway, the short answer is, yes, it's a big topic among many & two, there's a context to the scuffle over there that might not be obvious to an outsider. We're trying to cut down on those things so that the site remains welcoming to people.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16501327753737422337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22927650.post-60812062824352931372011-06-17T07:55:12.210-07:002011-06-17T07:55:12.210-07:00Jenna,
Sorry to hear about the internet argument ...Jenna,<br /><br />Sorry to hear about the internet argument and it's effects! Not being a fan, writer, or reader of YA fiction, I didn't even know there Was a controversy, let alone a major dispute (silly me!) I did read the discussion on your other site and was kind of surprised to see how very personal it became, very quickly..(at least to an outsider :) ) I hope your weekend off gives you a chance to re-charge and recover. It's sad when online discussions get so frustrating they distract from life. <br /><br />Have you read "The Hounds of the Morrigan" by Pat Shea (or O Shea, I'm not sure) It's more a kid's book than YA but I think you'd like it, it's really, really good.Mashahttp://www.cyganeria-masha.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com